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How does Nathan Jones play

I spent a little time these last few days looking at some videos and articles on how Nathan Jones set up his teams, mostly Luton of course.

I mean, at the moment for us it is substance over style. We haven’t kept a clean sheet since Nathan Jones first went to choir practice, and on Saturday go into our biggest game for many years.

So, I think for almost all Addicks we just want the Welshman to get us back to basics and bring a bit of pride back.

However Jones does have a particular style of play which he perfected at Luton and attempted to at Stoke and then Southampton but found that hard in a much more rarified environment.

Charlton’s management team have attempted to create a vision of play around a 3-5-2, and in fairness to them that was not going to be achievable in one transfer window.

It appears that the new manager is going to be allowed a lot more control than Holden and Appleton, and I am really wishing that Jones is able to get us away from this transfer window to transfer window mentality, it has become I think the fulcrum for all of the other ineptitudes that the squad currently represents.

We have given 20 debuts to players this season and 39 different players have played in the 30 league games. That clearly has to stop and we can only pray that Jones constructs a foundation that enables us to grow organically little by little, but with ambition and some bloody oomph.

All we want is something to believe in. And, that is not just the Bible!

At Luton, both times, Jones predominantly used a back three formation whether in a 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 but his teams were both mobile and adaptable in and out of possession.

Our defence is a shambles, worse than that even. Curbs and the best manager’s get that sorted first. Jones has options now at the back thanks to the signings of Gillesphey, REG and Ramsey plus I think our best centre-back, his namesake Jones. There is also the experience of Thomas and then Ness, who played well in front of him yesterday.

Jones is a defence first coach. Luton were very sound at the back and would switch fleetingly into a backline of five. These Charlton players need to be fit (they are much fitter now than they were under Holden) and smart though as Luton immediately after recovering the ball would move into counter-attacking 3-4-1-2 and in the final phase of the action would come across 3-2-5 attempting to sustain attacks and to keep the ball in their opponents own third of the pitch.

Luton played a high pressing game, and this was before it was super trendy, and try to win the ball back as high as possible. Jones’ team were quick and intense in the press. The three-man midfield would encompass two in a line and one sat behind as a guard in front of the three centre-halves.

Luton relied on wing-backs to provide defensive coverage tucking inside but also width getting forward. All this without passing the football to death. Attacking was often direct, long passes towards a big striker with other offensive players scurrying around looking to collect second balls. Alfie should love that, not that we have that big target man. We almost did.

This allowed The Hatters to get the ball into the offensive third quickly and then attempt to sustain pressure well away from their own goal creating overloads to win the ball back in opponents halves.

It wasn’t as elaborate a style as that sounds. This was not being played in the Champions League, but it was effective, exciting to watch and successful.

I was also always envious at the connectivity that he had with the Luton Town fans.

I’m looking forward to having Nathan Jones as our manager, but first things first, bring back some solidity defensively, more support to Alfie up top and most of all a winning mentality. I want to feel good about being an Addick again.

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  1. Eddie's avatar
    Eddie #

    Excellent

    February 4, 2024
  2. cliffb50's avatar
    cliffb50 #

    I endorse everything you wrote…and I’m sure he’s already planned training this week to win next Saturday.
    I’m sure hes digested what he witnessed against Derby.
    He has Pearcy and Fleming to assist and Jones will want a winning start to his new role.
    I’m.sure the majority of true fans will get behind him and players will be open to his analysis of what needs to be done immediately to stop the fall.
    It’s going to be a long-haul this season but relegation is not an option.

    February 4, 2024
    • cliffb50's avatar
      cliffb50 #

      Thanks CA for your analysis that is interesting and sheds light on what he could be thinking.

      February 4, 2024
  3. Martin Vallis's avatar

    He’s got a tough job with this rag tag bunch of so called footballers.

    Whatever his preferred formation and tactics, I doubt very much he can drill these players sufficiently to have an immediate effect, he needs time but we’re running out of that.

    February 4, 2024
    • ChicagoAddick's avatar

      16 games left.

      February 4, 2024
    • Andy T's avatar
      Andy T #

      he just needs to survive the season and build for next year. I know staying in League One is not a given.

      February 5, 2024
  4. Shadow Play's avatar
    Shadow Play #

    We haven’t kept a clean sheet since the Reading match, we even shipped goals in the FA Cup matches against non-league opposition. So defensive solidity is a priority – and that’s why Curtis Fleming was brought in along with a host of defenders and defensive minded midfielders.

    Like you CA I was looking at what he did at Luton – in his promotion season from L2 to L1 Luton on three occasions scored 7 goals in one match before the new year. In their L1 promotion campaign they were the highest scorers in the division. So attacking wise Luton were aggressive and as you point out employed a high press. And playing a variation of 3-5-2 means that we will be protecting the centre of the park and not allowing teams to run through us.

    But to play the high press you need to work hard and be energetic out of possession. I hope our newly remodelled squad is fit enough.

    February 4, 2024
    • ChicagoAddick's avatar

      SA – well they are not are they. It will take time. We need a short term approach from Jones over the next month but now is time for the SMT to give a manager some head space. He saved Luton from relegation the first half season he was there. Looking back that was a gamble to appoint him with no previous managerial experience.

      February 4, 2024
  5. Wayne Burtt's avatar
    Wayne Burtt #

    Thanks CA: a good analysis. Nathan Jones is probably as good a manager/coach as we could imagine we might get. Now is the time for stability in the side, building from a solid defence. Let us hope that Jones can achieve this at the earliest. Building belief and a healthy team psychology coupled with defensive capability would be an excellent start. And let’s hope that Dobson can be encouraged to remain at Charlton too.

    I also hope that Dean Holden enjoys a productive and enjoyable stay in Damman. He was such a likeable character and didn’t get a realistic chance with us.

    February 4, 2024
  6. Phil's avatar
    Phil #

    As a lifelong Luton fan, I really think your board have made a good choice. An old mate of mine was a Charlton supporter, so I’ll try and give an honest assessment.

    Nathan was brilliant for us. He’s a bit of a Marmite character but that probably comes from a passion and emotion that not everyone can relate to. Give him a bit of time and support him through thick and thin and you’ll get your rewards. Don’t just wait for the results to clap and cheer him – the bloke will always give 110%.

    Above all, his players have to be fit, with no egos and a real togetherness. A lot of the time he played with a midfield diamond and if your players respond to the gameplans, you’ll start to keep clean sheets. Both Southampton and Stoke were a managers’ equivalent of hospital balls, so don’t hold that against him. He should have had more sense, but hey, hindsight’s a wonderful thing. Once you can defend with 11 and break fast, results will come. To really get things moving, he’ll need a couple of transfer windows and he needs a good backroom staff – he can’t do it all on his own. With Alan Sheehan now at Swansea and Chris Cohen at Lincoln, his options are limited but I don’t think he’ll be forced into unconsidered appointments. The bloke’s a planner, and I’m sure he’ll have though about who he might want a long time before he thought about which club he’d be at. And it will take time, but I’m sure you’re not going down – there’s too much quality in the squad from what I can see. He’ll tighten things at the back – that’s the cornerstone, and the prettier football will come once you’re getting results.

    However it pans out, good luck for the rest of the season and I’ll be keeping an eye out!

    February 5, 2024
    • ChicagoAddick's avatar

      Thanks for commenting Phil. Much appreciated. I think most Addicks are hoping that Luton can stay up. Fantastic effort so far.

      February 5, 2024
  7. rierti's avatar
    rierti #

    He will need to concentrate on defence as his judgment of forwards was questionable when he ran our academy U21 side
    about 10 years ago. He seemed to favour Piggott over Smith which in my opinion was a serious mistake. I have watched U18 and U21/23 for many years and I have noticed that players in the U18 group who score goals but are lacking technically rarely make the grade. Smith was significantly better technically than Piggott as he could lead the line and both score goals and provide assists. Ladapo benefited from playing alongside Smith at Rotherham. Smith has achieved 3 promotions, 2 with Rotherham and 1 with Sheffield Wednesday. Other technical strikers that have made the grade include Paul Walsh, the Leaburns and Lookman.
    Hopefully, he has improved his judgment on forwards although he signed Piggott for Luton which proved another poor decision.

    February 5, 2024
  8. Luton Fan's avatar
    Luton Fan #

    He is the best manager I have enjoyed watching in my 40 + years as a Luton fan, Id still take hime back now. 442 Diamond was his go to tactic but he will use a 3 at the back also. Defensive he is not imho – astute is a better word , he is clever enough to know who he can go toe to toe with and will press and break quickly when he can. Great manager who should get you up. And Berry was class , shame about the injuries once he gets going you will love how he ghosts into space and scores goals a lower leage Lampard.

    August 15, 2024
    • ChicagoAddick's avatar

      Good to know. We live in hope. Thanks for the comment.

      August 15, 2024

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